Kometa Halleya Czy to ¿art? 

Kometa Halleya Czy to ¿art?



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Od kilku dni na NEOCP wisi anons o pojawieniu siê nowej komety.
Sp³ynê³o sporo obserwacji astrometrycznych

9P1083D C2009 08 15.44097 23 56 33.82 +17 28 07.8 19.2 V NEOCP703 9P1083D C2009 08 15.44818 23 56 33.61 +17 28 07.2 18.7 V NEOCP703 9P1083D C2009 08 15.45549 23 56 33.14 +17 28 06.5 18.7 V NEOCP703 9P1083D C2009 08 15.46273 23 56 32.74 +17 28 04.9 18.9 V NEOCP703 9P1083D C2009 08 15.49262 23 56 31.08 +17 28 01.8 19.0 V NEOCP703 9P1083D C2009 08 15.49358 23 56 31.07 +17 28 02.1 19.6 V NEOCP703 9P1083D C2009 08 15.49454 23 56 31.05 +17 28 00.6 18.3 V NEOCP703 9P1083D C2009 08 15.49549 23 56 30.88 +17 28 02.1 18.2 V NEOCP703 9P1083D C2009 08 15.91053 23 56 09.20 +17 26 55.2 NEOCPJ95 9P1083D C2009 08 15.91888 23 56 08.84 +17 26 54.2 19.3 NEOCPJ95 9P1083D C2009 08 15.93511 23 56 07.82 +17 26 51.5 19.4 C NEOCPB42 9P1083D C2009 08 15.94216 23 56 07.61 +17 26 50.0 18.7 R NEOCPA13 9P1083D C2009 08 15.94572 23 56 07.29 +17 26 49.9 19.1 C NEOCPB42 9P1083D C2009 08 15.95060 23 56 07.14 +17 26 49.2 19.2 V NEOCPA17 9P1083D C2009 08 15.95140 23 56 07.12 +17 26 48.4 19.6 V NEOCP151 9P1083D C2009 08 15.95295 23 56 06.80 +17 26 49.0 19.7 C NEOCPB42 9P1083D C2009 08 15.95431 23 56 06.95 +17 26 48.5 19.7 V NEOCP151 9P1083D C2009 08 15.95722 23 56 06.74 +17 26 49.1 19.5 V NEOCP151 9P1083D C2009 08 15.95843 23 56 06.71 +17 26 48.2 19.2 V NEOCPA17 9P1083D C2009 08 15.96020 23 56 06.47 +17 26 47.5 19.1 C NEOCPB42 9P1083D C2009 08 15.96625 23 56 06.29 +17 26 47.0 19.4 V NEOCPA17 9P1083D C2009 08 15.96809 23 56 06.21 +17 26 46.2 19.0 R NEOCPA13 9P1083D C2009 08 16.01393 23 56 03.71 +17 26 39.5 19.5 R NEOCP113 9P1083D C2009 08 16.02407 23 56 03.20 +17 26 37.6 19.6 R NEOCP113 9P1083D C2009 08 16.06948 23 56 00.74 +17 26 30.5 NEOCP118 9P1083D C2009 08 16.07909 23 56 00.23 +17 26 29.1 NEOCP118 9P1083D C2009 08 16.08044 23 56 00.20 +17 26 28.8 NEOCPJ95 9P1083D C2009 08 16.08614 23 55 59.91 +17 26 27.9 NEOCPJ95 9P1083D C2009 08 16.08988 23 55 59.67 +17 26 27.0 NEOCPJ95 9P1083D C2009 08 16.11461 23 55 58.36 +17 26 23.9 19.0 NEOCPJ95 9P1083D C2009 08 16.19214 23 55 54.33 +17 26 11.9 19.9 V NEOCPH55 9P1083D C2009 08 16.20255 23 55 53.78 +17 26 09.9 20.0 V NEOCPH55 9P1083D C2009 08 16.21297 23 55 53.24 +17 26 08.1 20.1 V NEOCPH55 9P1083D C2009 08 16.26792 23 55 50.35 +17 25 59.1 18.7 C NEOCPH06 9P1083D *C2009 08 16.26792 23 55 50.35 +17 25 59.1 18.7 C NEOCPH06 9P1083D C2009 08 16.27744 23 55 49.84 +17 25 57.7 18.9 C NEOCPH06 9P1083D *C2009 08 16.27744 23 55 49.84 +17 25 57.7 18.9 C NEOCPH06 9P1083D C2009 08 16.33860 23 55 46.51 +17 25 46.8 19.4 C NEOCPG58 9P1083D C2009 08 16.33970 23 55 46.47 +17 25 48.0 18.7 C NEOCPH10 9P1083D C2009 08 16.34326 23 55 46.29 +17 25 47.2 18.3 C NEOCPH10 9P1083D C2009 08 16.34486 23 55 46.37 +17 25 47.0 19.4 C NEOCPG58 9P1083D C2009 08 16.34681 23 55 46.09 +17 25 46.7 18.7 C NEOCPH10 9P1083D C2009 08 16.35111 23 55 45.88 +17 25 46.6 18.5 C NEOCPG58 9P1083D C2009 08 16.42528 23 55 41.88 +17 25 34.1 19.3 V NEOCP291 9P1083D C2009 08 16.43077 23 55 41.59 +17 25 32.7 19.1 V NEOCP703 9P1083D C2009 08 16.43100 23 55 41.55 +17 25 33.3 19.3 V NEOCP291 9P1083D C2009 08 16.43670 23 55 41.33 +17 25 31.9 19.1 V NEOCP291 9P1083D C2009 08 16.43677 23 55 41.41 +17 25 32.1 18.6 V NEOCP703 9P1083D C2009 08 16.44281 23 55 40.98 +17 25 31.0 18.8 V NEOCP703 9P1083D C2009 08 16.44890 23 55 40.62 +17 25 30.1 19.3 V NEOCP703 9P1083D C2009 08 16.98549 23 55 12.15 +17 24 02.7 18.9 R NEOCP587 9P1083D C2009 08 16.99601 23 55 11.59 +17 24 01.9 NEOCP587 9P1083D C2009 08 17.01314 23 55 10.66 +17 23 58.9 18.5 V NEOCPB01 9P1083D C2009 08 17.01622 23 55 10.53 +17 24 00.7 18.7 V NEOCPB01 9P1083D C2009 08 17.01775 23 55 10.38 +17 23 57.5 18.8 V NEOCPB01 9P1083D C2009 08 17.01811 23 55 10.33 +17 23 57.7 NEOCP587 9P1083D C2009 08 17.01929 23 55 10.29 +17 23 57.1 18.6 V NEOCPB01 9P1083D C2009 08 17.02082 23 55 10.17 +17 23 56.9 18.6 V NEOCPB01 9P1083D C2009 08 17.02391 23 55 10.10 +17 23 56.7 18.5 V NEOCPB01 9P1083D C2009 08 17.02544 23 55 09.96 +17 23 57.1 18.6 V NEOCPB01 9P1083D C2009 08 17.02698 23 55 09.88 +17 23 56.0 18.6 V NEOCPB01 9P1083D C2009 08 17.02852 23 55 09.76 +17 23 55.9 18.8 V NEOCPB01 9P1083D C2009 08 17.03006 23 55 09.73 +17 23 55.9 18.7 V NEOCPB01 9P1083D C2009 08 17.03159 23 55 09.66 +17 23 55.7 18.7 V NEOCPB01 9P1083D C2009 08 17.03313 23 55 09.57 +17 23 55.5 18.4 V NEOCPB01 9P1083D C2009 08 17.03466 23 55 09.47 +17 23 55.3 18.7 V NEOCPB01 9P1083D C2009 08 17.05185 23 55 08.47 +17 23 53.5 19.5 R NEOCP232 9P1083D C2009 08 17.07260 23 55 07.55 +17 23 48.0 19.6 R NEOCP232 9P1083D C2009 08 17.08427 23 55 06.93 +17 23 47.0 19.6 R NEOCP232 9P1083D C2009 08 17.36026 23 54 51.97 +17 23 00.2 19.0 V NEOCP703 9P1083D C2009 08 17.36762 23 54 51.66 +17 23 01.5 18.9 V NEOCP703 9P1083D %C2009 08 17.36824 23 54 51.48 +17 22 59.2 18.7 R NEOCPH06 9P1083D C2009 08 17.37494 23 54 51.18 +17 22 59.0 19.2 V NEOCP703 9P1083D C2009 08 17.95792 23 54 19.86 +17 21 20.2 NEOCPJ95 9P1083D C2009 08 17.96371 23 54 19.56 +17 21 19.7 NEOCPJ95 9P1083D C2009 08 17.96907 23 54 19.25 +17 21 19.1 NEOCPJ95 9P1083D C2009 08 17.97321 23 54 19.03 +17 21 17.9 19.3 NEOCPJ95 9P1083D C2009 08 18.02443 23 54 16.23 +17 21 10.8 19.0 R NEOCPA79 9P1083D C2009 08 18.03131 23 54 15.87 +17 21 09.4 19.0 R NEOCPA79 9P1083D C2009 08 18.04316 23 54 15.26 +17 21 06.7 18.7 R NEOCPA79 9P1083D C2009 08 18.33382 23 53 59.42 +17 20 17.8 19.0 V NEOCP703 9P1083D C2009 08 18.34075 23 53 59.13 +17 20 15.6 19.1 V NEOCP703 9P1083D C2009 08 18.34767 23 53 58.77 +17 20 14.5 19.0 V NEOCP703 9P1083D C2009 08 18.35465 23 53 58.45 +17 20 12.9 19.0 V NEOCP703 9P1083D C2009 08 18.38019 23 53 56.97 +17 20 09.0 19.4 V NEOCP291 9P1083D C2009 08 18.38419 23 53 56.74 +17 20 08.0 19.3 V NEOCP291 9P1083D C2009 08 18.38819 23 53 56.55 +17 20 07.4 19.2 V NEOCP291 REMARK: Not to be redistributed. For personal use only.

Orbital Elements:
9P1083D 11.1 0.15 K098H 330.10689 110.39361 62.07153 163.95647 0.2285262 0.04792035 7.5068213 80 1 3 days 0.70 NEOCPNomin REMARK: Not to be redistributed. For personal use only.

Gdy wrzucimy t± astrometriê do FindORB, faktycznie otrzymujemy to co MPC z RMSem rzêdu 1" .... trajektoriê podobn± komety Halleya!
Zastanawia mnie to czy to ¿art czy te¿ rozb³ysk, czy zupe³nie inny obiekt o przypadkowo podobnych elementach orbity.
Jakie¶ sugestie? :-)
Ten post by³ edytowany przez Michal Kusiak dnia: 18 August 2009 - 15:42

Parametry orbity rzeczywi¶cie s± bardzo bliskie parametrom komety Halleya, niemniej jednak kometa Halleya jest obecnie w zupe³nie innej czê¶ci nieba. Najprawdopodobniej jest to jaki¶ obiekt "pokrewny" do komety Halleya...

Ju¿ oficjalnie pojawi³a siê orbita ...

MPEC 2009-Q14 : COMET C/2009 P2 (BOATTINI)
http://www.cfa.harva...K09/K09Q14.html

Orbital elements: C/2009 P2 (Boattini) T 2010 July 24.182 TT MPC q 6.13366 (2000.0) P Q Peri. 92.679 +0.822356 -0.512450 Node 61.741 -0.565768 -0.782547 e 1.0 Incl. 163.699 +0.060311 -0.353575 From 92 observations 2009 Aug. 15-18.
Ten post by³ edytowany przez Limax7 dnia: 18 August 2009 - 19:37

Ju¿ oficjalnie pojawi³a siê orbita ...

MPEC 2009-Q14 : COMET C/2009 P2 (BOATTINI)
http://www.cfa.harva...K09/K09Q14.html

Orbital elements: C/2009 P2 (Boattini) T 2010 July 24.182 TT MPC q 6.13366 (2000.0) P Q Peri. 92.679 +0.822356 -0.512450 Node 61.741 -0.565768 -0.782547 e 1.0 Incl. 163.699 +0.060311 -0.353575 From 92 observations 2009 Aug. 15-18.


To by³by ca³kiem udany ¿art, gdyby kometa odkryta zosta³a w okolicy 1 kwietnia ;)

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